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Season 3 Episode 5 of the Running for Beginners podcast from the 22resolutionists, hosted by me Mike Fleming.


Episode Description:

What Is It Really Like to Run 135 Miles Through Death Valley?

Most runners think a marathon is a long way.

Now imagine running 135 miles through Death Valley in extreme heat, climbing mountains, battling exhaustion, managing nutrition and hydration, and continuing forward long after your body starts telling you to stop.

That’s the Badwater 135.

In this special episode of the Running for Beginners podcast, Mike sits down with Vanessa Kline of Beast Pacing, shortly after she completed the Badwater 135, to talk about what it’s actually like to take on one of the world’s most challenging ultramarathons.

Vanessa takes us inside the race—from preparation and expectations to the realities of running through extreme heat and managing the physical and mental demands of a 135-mile race.

We talk about:

  • What drew Vanessa to the Badwater 135
  • Preparing for a 135-mile ultramarathon
  • Running through Death Valley’s extreme heat
  • Nutrition, hydration and fueling over an ultra-distance race
  • How fatigue changes your decision-making
  • The mental battle that comes with running for hours and hours
  • The moments when quitting becomes tempting
  • How runners deal with pain, exhaustion and doubt
  • What happens after you’ve gone far beyond marathon distance
  • Vanessa’s biggest lessons from Badwater
  • What she would tell someone considering their first ultra

You don’t have to be an ultrarunner to appreciate this conversation.

At its heart, Badwater is a story about how far we can push ourselves when we decide we’re not finished yet.

Whether you’re working toward your first 5K, training for a marathon, or dreaming about an ultra someday, Vanessa’s experience offers lessons that apply to every runner.

Listen now and go inside the Badwater 135.

Links & Resources

•            Running for Beginners Website: running-for-beginners

•            Follow us on Instagram: @Running4Beginners

• Connect with Vanessa Kline: @vanessajkline

🔗 Learn more about Beast Pacing, & Vanessa: @Beast Pacing


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